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Oliver Cookson08 November 2021

How To Bootstrap £500 into £350 Million - Oliver Cookson Founder of Myprotein

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The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take32:30

The loneliness of 100% ownership and entrepreneur mental health

Cookson refuses to describe the journey as all rosy. Once Myprotein was Europe's number one online, trading in six countries with hundreds of thousands of customers and a large staff, anything that went badly wrong landed entirely on him — he was still a 100% shareholder with no mentors, no chairman and nobody to lean on. He describes it as a very lonely space that tested his mental fortitude, and argues entrepreneur mental health is systematically overlooked because everyone assumes founders are strong and making money.

So when something went Pete Tong, when something went really wrong, then all of the pressure was on these two shoulders because I didn't I…

Oliver Cookson · 33:00

The mental health of an entrepreneur is something that gets overlooked.

Oliver Cookson · 33:30
Hot Take55:30

Wealth buys freedom and options, not happiness

On the difference between £35m and £350m, Cookson says past a certain amount it stops making much difference. What it does buy is freedom and choice — deciding on a whim to fly to Barcelona for the weekend — plus the ability to help people around you and people you'll never meet. What it explicitly does not buy is happiness. He is careful to say there is no pity party, but insists wealth brings its own raft of problems: jealousy from acquaintances and strangers, more assets requiring management, and sharply raised expectations both from others and from yourself.

I think having over a certain amount gives you the key thing it gives you is freedom and choice of options.

Oliver Cookson · 55:30

Um The one thing it doesn't do is give you happiness.

Oliver Cookson · 56:00

Explainer· 2

Explainer11:00

Cow to customer: vertical integration as the USP

Cookson is clear he did not invent whey protein — it had been sold in the UK for years and longer in America. What nobody was doing was selling it online as its own vertically integrated brand. He owned the chain from the dairy through blending, flavouring and packing, then direct-to-consumer sale, fulfilment and aftercare customer service. He frames multiple USPs as the real asset: when everyone announces a new business, the question is what the USP is, and having several is better than one.

Um but what no one was doing was doing selling it online as a brand, a vertically integrated brand. So, I owned cow to customer.

Oliver Cookson · 11:30

If you have multiple USPs, the better.

Oliver Cookson · 11:00
Explainer48:30

Bad leaver clauses: the PE provisions founders should refuse

Cookson explains why minority private equity deals still carry founder risk: the provisions. Even as minority holders they can swamp you through legal technicalities, including bad leaver arrangements. Under those, a drink-driving conviction, a criminal offence, gross misconduct or lower thresholds classes you a bad leaver and strips your equity. His view is that you may accept it for fraud or imprisonment, but you should not accept clauses where something arguably-but-not-actually gross misconduct can take your equity away, and he was clear at the outset he wanted none of the heavy provisions.

The provisions that private equity put in even if they're a minority.

Oliver Cookson · 48:30

And then if you're a bad leaver, that means all the equity is taken away from you.

Oliver Cookson · 49:00

Story· 7

Story03:30

The 16-hour day: building Myprotein around a full-time dev job

Cookson kept his job as a web developer while launching Myprotein, doing 8-10 hour days at work and building the site, blending the product and running fulfilment around it. He got up at 4-5am to print works orders and blend product at his unit, went to his job, came back to package boxes for the Parcel Force collection, then did customer service, purchasing, web development and marketing at home. He wrote an algorithm that grouped orders and calculated flavouring quantities so the pick-and-blend was systematic rather than done with a calculator.

So, to do a full-time job and that at the same time, it's it's literally impossible to do it in less than 16 hours days.

Oliver Cookson · 04:30

So I got up at 4:00 or 5:00 went to my my unit which is the size of this room um and did the orders…

Oliver Cookson · 23:30
Story12:30

One GCSE, an apprenticeship, and learning to code as the real moat

Cookson left school at 16 with one GCSE, tried college IT and was refused entry to the higher class despite already building computers, and walked out. A modern apprenticeship as a junior programmer on IDE drivers gave him an NVQ level 3 — and, more importantly, he says, an education in office politics and how workplace dynamics flow. Introduced to the web around 1997, he taught himself Perl, JavaScript, HTML, Java, ColdFusion and MySQL from a book, and had seven years of building sites (including work on bbc.com and jessops.com) before Myprotein. Ali notes the same pattern in Ben Francis of Gymshark and in his own start.

What I did learn there which was absolutely key was the the dynamics of office politics.

Oliver Cookson · 14:30

To make a website back in 2004, there was none of those pop-up websites, Shopify or or WooCommerce, whatever there is.

Oliver Cookson · 17:30
Story08:30

The kitchen eureka: whey protein is a byproduct of cheese

Making his bedtime shake in his mother's kitchen on a Thursday night around 2002-03, Cookson turned over his MaxiMuscle tub and asked what whey protein actually is. The label read whey protein, flavouring, sweetener, fillers and vitamins. Researching it, he found whey is the liquid left when cheese is made — a byproduct that had been thrown away a decade earlier, and which when filtered enough becomes a highly bioavailable protein used in baby food and sports nutrition. That reframing from proprietary formula to commodity input is what opened the opportunity.

And I said, "What is actually whey protein?"

Oliver Cookson · 09:00

Now, whey protein is actually a byproduct of cheese.

Oliver Cookson · 09:30
Story21:30

Made to order: why it was called MY protein

The name encoded the second USP: off-the-shelf protein is sold identically to a 16-year-old who weighs eight stone and an 18-stone seasoned bodybuilder. Cookson let customers choose unflavoured, light, medium or heavy flavouring, and zero, some or lots of sweetener — the tea-and-sugar analogy. That personalisation is precisely why the site had to be custom-built rather than bought off the peg. Fulfilment was equally primitive: powders weighed on scales into a 20-litre Wickes paint bucket, shaken vigorously for 20 seconds by hand, no machinery.

it was called Myprotein for a reason it was called Myprotein cuz I wanted protein for you.

Oliver Cookson · 21:30

And that was so everything was made to order.

Oliver Cookson · 22:00
Story29:00

First customers: a MuscleTalk sticky post and early Google AdWords

Two channels produced customers from day one. Cookson championed Google AdWords when it was new, built and personally managed the account until finally delegating it in 2009, and held a £2.34 cost per acquisition excluding brand terms all the way through. The bigger driver was MuscleTalk, a vBulletin bodybuilding forum with tens of thousands of members, where he paid a trivial sum to James — later a co-founder of Huel — for a sticky post with a strong introductory offer, selling whey at a third of competitor prices with a full certificate of analysis. Early adopters in tight communities, he notes, become the best ambassadors, the same way cyclists championed Wiggle.

So Google AdWords was something I really championed in those early days 2003 four it was pretty pretty new.

Oliver Cookson · 29:00

I approached a guy called James, which is one of co-founders of Huel actually.

Oliver Cookson · 30:30
Story46:00

Walking out when private equity chipped the multiple

Cookson signed a 30-day exclusivity period with a private equity house for deep due diligence, warning them upfront that the process would consume management time and that growth would soften — and getting agreement that this would be taken in the round. Due diligence took 90-95% of every working day. At the end, the buyer looked him in the eye and said the numbers had flattened and the multiple needed reworking. Cookson stopped the meeting on the spot, on the grounds that a partner negotiating in sales mode could not be trusted. The firm later told him Myprotein was the one that got away.

"Oliver, the it's flattened off the numbers. We're going to have to rework your multiple."

Oliver Cookson · 47:00

Since then they've actually told me we were the one that got away and we shouldn't have tried that little trick on you.

Oliver Cookson · 47:30
Story50:00

The Hut Group deal: £34m cash, rolled equity, and £289m nine years later

After roughly 25-30+ approaches including Pepsi and Nestlé as trade buyers, and 17 private equity houses offering minority stakes, the process collapsed back to square one. The Hut Group arrived at the eleventh hour with a clean bid: no provisions, freedom to leave or stay. Around £34m cash on day one with about half the value rolled into The Hut Group for roughly 14% of it. Cookson says Myprotein was then bigger and more profitable than The Hut Group, which was selling CDs online and, contrary to what was presented, was making minus one rather than 3-4 million. He sold £289m of shares at the float in September the previous year and still holds a chunk.

The deal was around about 34 million quid cash day one and then the rest of the value of the business which was about half…

Oliver Cookson · 50:30

But I sold 289 worth of shares in the Hut Group.

Oliver Cookson · 54:30

Q&A· 1

Q&A05:00

Should a 21-year-old quit their job to start a business?

Asked what he'd tell a recent graduate in an unfulfilling job with a business idea, Cookson advises against quitting first. At 23 he earned around £25-30k, had just bought a house at three times salary, had no capital, no backing from his working-class parents, no mentors and no investors — so he took calculated risks and stayed employed. His advice is to build an MVP alongside the job or degree, get a test product out, and read the traction quickly. Only then does leaving become a real consideration.

Get a Get a test product out there and you'll know pretty quickly if there is some traction.

Oliver Cookson · 06:30

there's enough hours in a day to do an MVP.

Oliver Cookson · 06:30

Takeaway· 4

Takeaway28:00

Speed as a moat: product idea in the morning, selling by evening

Because production, labelling, marketing and copywriting were all in-house — mostly Cookson himself in the early days — a new product could go from idea to live listing within hours. He gives the example of a bedtime formula: a blend of slow-digesting milk proteins plus amino acids like glutamine, designed to drip-feed protein overnight and prevent catabolic effects, conceived in the morning and on the website by the afternoon, with money in the account that evening. He argues no competitor could match that cycle time.

I came with that product idea in the morning. It was on the website by the afternoon.

Oliver Cookson · 28:30

Who can launch create a product in the morning and launch it in the afternoon.

Oliver Cookson · 29:00
Takeaway52:30

Why £35m landing in your account feels like nothing

Asked by both Ali and Matt Moulding what it was like seeing 35 million quid arrive, Cookson says it made no difference in the moment. Unlike a lottery win, it had been building for years — a vision he'd held since he was eight and pursued for a decade — so it felt like part of the process rather than an event. He bought no car and did nothing extravagant; he calls it surreal rather than euphoric. Ali reports the identical response from authors hitting the New York Times bestseller list, including Ryan Holiday, who went back to mowing his lawn.

It it made no difference to me in a way.

Oliver Cookson · 53:00

I didn't go out and buy a new car. I didn't do anything extravagant.

Oliver Cookson · 53:00
Takeaway57:00

The post-exit void nobody plans for

Prompted by research on Wimbledon champions and Olympic gold medallists suffering afterwards, Cookson confirms he experienced it in 2011. Myprotein was the first thing he thought about, the last thing he thought about and what he dreamt about most nights; losing it in a split second left a void he struggled to fill and still finds hard. He warns that exiting is a genuine dream and aspiration but is not the end, draws the parallel with retiring footballers, and says the next season of his podcast will coach people who exit a business to plan for the change — something he did not do himself.

going from that to having not the business from literally one day to the next, you know, in literally a split second was a huge…

Oliver Cookson · 58:00

You you need to plan for after after that.

Oliver Cookson · 59:00
Takeaway1:04:30

Water on rocks: consistency beats intensity

Cookson's answer to people who try a business for a couple of weeks and give up is his bucket-and-rocks analogy: throw water at rock a hundred times and nothing changes, but throw it every two seconds for centuries and the rock erodes. He treats systematic, consistent action as the cornerstone of success and links it directly to self-reflection — repeating something over and over chips away at the rocks even when you cannot see progress. It's also his answer in the rapid-fire round on advice to his younger self: be consistent, be patient, believe in yourself.

However, if you get that bucket and throw it on the rocks every 2 seconds for centuries or millions of years, it'll erode the rocks.

Oliver Cookson · 1:05:00

keep doing what you're doing, do it systematically, do it absolutely with consistency, and you'll achieve your goals for sure.

Oliver Cookson · 1:05:30