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12 October 2023

How To Win: Rugby Legend Dan Carter's Ultimate Guide to Success

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Insights & moments

The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take54:00

Pressure is a privilege, not a burden

After their 2007 collapse, the All Blacks reframed pressure entirely. The most successful people live with pressure every day, so having it is a mark of the privileged few, not a burden. They chose to walk toward pressure, embrace it, and even manufacture it in training.

  • Most successful people in the world live with pressure every day
  • Reframed from burden to privilege of the lucky few
  • Distinguishes high-performance pressure from survival pressure
  • Choose to walk toward and embrace pressure
  • Enabled by having the right tools to perform in those moments

it's not a burden to have pressure in your life it's a privilege

Dan Carter · 54:30
#pressure#mindset#reframe#performance

Explainer· 3

Explainer20:30

Purpose vs goal vs dream: why one has no finish line

Carter distinguishes a goal you can tick off (becoming an All Black) from a visionary purpose you strive toward but never reach (becoming an All Black great). A purpose is a direction and a horizon; choosing it changes how you approach every goal and day beneath it.

  • A goal is achievable and gets ticked off
  • A purpose is aspirational and never actually completed
  • You never plant a flag and declare the purpose achieved
  • The team's purpose became 'most dominant team in the history of world rugby'
  • Purpose is the inspiring direction; goals are milestones along the way

a goal is something you can achieve ... whereas a really Visionary purpose it's something you strive towards but you never actually achieve

Dan Carter · 21:00
#purpose#goal-setting#vision#mindset
Explainer1:02:00

How the stigma around seeing a sports psychologist flipped

Early in Carter's career, spending time with the team psychologist marked you as weird and soft; you were meant to roll up your sleeves. By the end, not seeing the psychologist looked odd, because it was seen as an obvious tool to become the best. The second half of his career, when he used the psychologist heavily, is where he saw the most growth.

  • Early 2000s: seeing the psychologist was seen as weak or weird
  • Work was done with the team, rarely one-on-one
  • By career's end, not using the psychologist looked strange
  • Sessions focus on process over outcome and staying present
  • Carter's biggest regret: not using the psychologist from day one

if there was one thing I would have loved to have used the psychologists from from day one of my career

Dan Carter · 1:03:30
#sport-psychology#mental-health#stigma#mindset
Explainer1:10:00

Better people make better All Blacks

Carter explains an All Blacks value that inverted the old approach of treating the player purely as a product. By investing in the whole person, their family, culture, village, and sense of belonging, the team built loyalty that translated into better rugby, because cared-for players want to repay the environment.

  • Old model focused only on producing the best rugby player
  • New model bettered the person: family, culture, belonging
  • Management learned players' families, marriages, home villages
  • A sense of belonging made players want to repay the team
  • The by-product of a better person is a better All Black

better people make better All Blacks

Dan Carter · 1:10:00
#team-culture#leadership#belonging#wellbeing

Story· 5

Story09:30

Repurposing: rebuilding identity after your career ends

Carter opens on the fear behind the word 'retirement' and the lost feeling of not knowing who he was without rugby. Mentored by former Saatchi & Saatchi CEO Kevin Roberts over six months, he did his first real inward look at his characteristics, beliefs, and past learnings to build a framework for the next chapter.

  • For 18 years his only driver was to be the best rugby player possible
  • Hanging up the boots left him 'a little bit lost'
  • Worked with mentor Kevin Roberts on a repurposing process
  • Listed his characteristics, beliefs, and career learnings to carry forward
  • The framework lets him say no to opportunities off his path

I was a little bit lost like who am I if I'm not a rugby player

Dan Carter · 10:00
#retirement#identity#purpose#transition
Story24:30

How losing the love of the game nearly ended Carter's career

At a prestigious rugby high school, Carter got so serious and pressured about becoming an All Black that he had one of his worst seasons and lost his love of the game. He skipped senior rugby to play social under-21 rugby with friends, rediscovered the fun, and within 18 months was at a World Cup.

  • Over-focus and pressure at Christchurch Boys' High crushed his form
  • He 'forgot why I play the game', which is that he loves it
  • Chose social rugby with mates over senior clubs after school
  • Fun and enjoyment brought his best rugby back naturally
  • Made the All Blacks within roughly 18 months

I forgot why I play the game and it's because I love it and enjoy it

Dan Carter · 26:00
#enjoyment#burnout#motivation#performance
Story28:00

The day Carter ran his kids' homeschooling like a military camp

In pandemic lockdown, Carter applied his rugby obsession with structure to homeschooling his three children, timetabling every minute like the military. By day's end the kids were in tears and his wife intervened. The regime lasted exactly one day, a lesson that structure without enjoyment backfires.

  • Tried to run 'the best homeschooling system in the world'
  • Rigid minute-by-minute military-style timetable
  • Children ended the day in tears; wife stepped in
  • The system was thrown out after a single day
  • Enjoyment matters as much as structure, even in high performance

I ran it like a military and we got to the end of the day my children were in tears

Dan Carter · 28:30
#family#structure#enjoyment#parenting
Story46:30

Best athlete vs best father: Carter's balance struggle

Carter admits he equated providing for his family with lucrative overseas contracts, while his kids just wanted him around. An 'all in on one thing' personality, he swung between total rugby focus and total family focus. His fix was small pockets of presence, sometimes a pep talk or turning off his phone before walking in the door.

  • Confused providing (big contracts) with being present
  • Kids wanted him around more than anything material
  • His all-or-nothing wiring made balance hard
  • Used pep talks and phone-off rituals to be present at home
  • Weekly planning carved out fixed pockets like coaching his son's team

can you be the world's best father and the world's best athlete

Dan Carter · 47:00
#family#balance#presence#fatherhood
Story1:16:00

Staying grounded: the CEO who checked his feet were on the ground

Carter names humility as a core value and leans on old friends and family to call him out. After good games, the New Zealand Rugby CEO would literally kick his shoes to check his feet were still on the ground. His school mates remind him about the one kick he missed, not the nine he made.

  • Humility is a core personal and All Blacks value
  • Keeps a close circle who will call him out
  • The NZ Rugby CEO kicked his shoes to keep him grounded
  • Old mates mention the miss, not the makes
  • People who praise only your wins are 'not helpful'

I'm just making sure your feet are still on the ground

Dan Carter · 1:16:30
#humility#grounding#friendship#ego

Tool· 3

Tool48:30

The phone-alarm identity switch for changing gears

Abdaal shares his CEO coach's tool that Carter loved: phone alarms labelled with an identity for each mode of the day. At 5:30am it reads 'world's best athlete' for the gym, later 'world's best coach' for work, and at 6pm 'world's best father and husband' to drop work at the doorstep and switch to presence.

  • Set timed alarms labelled with the identity for that block
  • Morning: 'world's best athlete' to trigger gym mode
  • Evening: 'world's best father and husband' to switch off work
  • The label is a cue to change gears and be present
  • Carter, a self-described structure lover, planned to adopt it

at like 600 p.m. the alarm goes off and says world's best father and husband

Ali Abdaal · 48:30
#productivity#presence#habits#tools
Tool1:28:30

One-word equity: the single word that defines you now

From the exercises at the back of his book, Carter explains 'one word equity', the single word that captures your character this season. His wife's is 'nurturer'; his is 'Ambassador', for New Zealand, rugby, family, and winning. It is season-specific and expected to evolve every couple of years.

  • Pick one word that defines your character right now
  • Almost like a spirit animal for who you are
  • Carter's is 'Ambassador'; his wife's is 'nurturer'
  • It is season-specific, not fixed for life
  • Revisit it every couple of years as you evolve

my one word Equity is Ambassador

Dan Carter · 1:29:00
#self-awareness#identity#exercise#values
Tool1:30:30

Writing your core values so you can check yourself weekly

Carter's final exercise: write a short list of six or so core values you want to live by, such as 'work conquers all' or 'health is wealth', then use them as a weekly checklist. At week's end you ask whether you actually lived each one, and if not, why not, given it matters to you.

  • Start by writing down the values you want to live by
  • Aim for a short list, around six
  • Examples: 'work conquers all', 'health is wealth'
  • Use them as a weekly self-check
  • If you didn't live a value, confront why not

just having a a list of of your core values that that you live by each and every day

Dan Carter · 1:31:30
#values#self-review#exercise#accountability

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway31:30

Do what's right when no one's looking

Carter names 'do what's right when no one's looking' as a core value for the unglamorous work like Sunday ice baths after a battering. The mind will offer shortcuts nobody would ever see, but taking them is not high performance, and the hidden work is eventually rewarded.

  • Purpose is what gets you to the work you don't feel like doing
  • Ask what your best self would do in the moment
  • Your mind plays games and offers invisible shortcuts
  • Skipping recovery when unseen still is not high performance
  • Hidden sacrifice gets rewarded at some stage

do what's right when no one's looking

Dan Carter · 31:30
#discipline#values#integrity#high-performance