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Eight Sleep08 December 2022

The World’s First Sleep Fitness Company Founders On Optimising Your Sleep - Eight Sleep

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Insights & moments

The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Myth Buster· 2

Myth Buster21:30

Eight hours is an average, not a requirement

I discovered that the original reason why we say that there should be eight hours it is just an average and so everyone is different…

Mateo · 21:30
Myth Buster22:30

Weekend lie-ins are self-inflicted jet lag

that's wrong because substantially you're jet lagging yourself because it's not that your body knows that it's the weekend it says why now you're waking…

Mateo · 22:30

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take09:30

Entrepreneurship is one of the worst ways to make money

there is Paul Graham who talks about that and says that the number one thing driving Founders is uh they don't want to fail

Mateo · 09:30

there's easier and better ways to make money more money than being an entrepreneur it's true because probably over 90 of startups and businesses fail…

Alexandra · 10:00
Hot Take52:30

A billion people have sleep apnea and 90% don't know

no one wants to do that and so they say you know what yeah maybe it has a puppy and maybe not but who cares…

Mateo · 52:30

but to a point where oxygen doesn't get to the brain and this is gonna impact on your your whole sleep staging and so you're…

Mateo · 53:00

Explainer· 5

Explainer31:30

Why sleep temperature has to change across the night

your body temperature changes during the night and as soon as you fall asleep your body temperature drops and then a couple of hours before…

Mateo · 31:30

one of the things that deactivates is temperature control and so you want to be in this neutral thermal neutral environment so your body doesn't…

Mateo · 33:30
Explainer41:00

What sleep fitness actually means

but there was no way to describe what it meant to be healthy in your sleep and what we realized is like if you don't…

Alexandra · 41:00

not just an end you're constantly working on it it's okay you don't sleep well tonight

Alexandra · 41:30
Explainer1:00:00

Deep sleep is physical recovery, REM is mental recovery

the first thing that your body will prioritize is deep sleep

Mateo · 1:00:00

deep sleep is usually the physical recovery for your body well instead the ram is the mental recovery Ram is when you are dreaming REM…

Mateo · 1:00:30
Explainer45:00

HRV is a physical recovery gauge you can only read against your own baseline

heart rate and heart rate variability are a proxy for how rested you are you are and how stressed you are right

Mateo · 45:00

it varies with age right so there's sort of different ranges that are considered to be like healthy versus if you're like an athlete like…

Alexandra · 1:11:00
Explainer1:25:30

Why hardware is structurally harder than software

first you need a lot of capital yeah right both to develop it second is really slow compared to software

Mateo · 1:25:30

more than anything you need to be able to forecast demand

Mateo · 1:26:00

Story· 3

Story11:30

The pyjama party, the $25k cheque and no company

one of our friends came to me and he gave me a 25k check and so there was no company there was no names there…

Mateo · 12:00
Story47:30

The member who read his own biometrics and went straight to ER

a few weeks ago we saved the first life uh so I personally reach out to me and he'd say look uh I was not…

Mateo · 47:30

the Biometrics were all over the place compared to my usual Baseline I went straight to ER and they found an issue I had a…

Mateo · 48:00
Story1:24:30

Moving to Shenzhen tomorrow, back in three months

so the story is I go to her and I say look things are not happening in manufacturing I need to go to China and…

Mateo · 1:24:30

Q&A· 1

Q&A54:00

Does tracking everything just create anxiety and waste healthcare money?

if you have pancreatic cancer and you detect it early you have 90 chances to leave if you detect it late you have 90 chances…

Mateo · 55:00

this will help you not just to extend your lifespan but to extend your health span right

Mateo · 55:30

Tool· 1

Tool1:41:30

The founders' book list for builders and managers

there's two and actually gifted them to everyone in my team um that I always kind of go back to one is shoe dog by…

Alexandra · 1:41:30

there is a high output management which is highly recommended for any manager it was the former CEO of Intel it's really

Mateo · 1:42:00

Takeaway· 3

Takeaway19:00

Instead of a vacation, sleep one hour longer for seven days

if you just try for a week sleeping one hour longer um especially if you are sleep deprived you'll see how much better you can…

Alexandra · 19:00

because if you think over a week seven hours of sleep you're getting one night of sleep right yeah and so just try that because…

Mateo · 19:30
Takeaway24:00

Move social dinners to 6pm to protect a 10:30 bedtime

so we go for if we have a social dinner we try to set it early let's say six six thirty and then we can…

Mateo · 24:00

I think I think your tip about just the the social dinners at 6 PM is just such a game changer because in my mind…

Ali Abdaal · 39:00
Takeaway1:14:30

Sauna and cold plunge as a thermal shock before bed

if you want to improve your sleep quality and other ways to do a salmon a cold plunge a sound like and so this thermal…

Mateo · 1:14:30

so if you are in a hotel or they have a sauna and a cold plunge you should try to do that and you will…

Mateo · 1:15:00