The Quarter in the Basket: Aiming Past Money
- Difficulty
- Easy
- Time to result
- ~months to results
- Steps
- 6
- Confidence
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Joe Hudson uses a tennis story to explain why money is a bad target. His college girlfriend could serve into a ball basket four times out of five, but when the coach removed the basket and put a quarter on the ground where it had been, she hit it zero times. Put the basket back over the quarter and she hit it every time. Money is the quarter: too small and too abstract to aim at. The basket is a goal beyond money — proving something, winning a game, going to space, being of service. Hudson argues that hyper-successful people are never in it for the money itself; money is the pigment a painter uses, a means rather than an end. Chasing money directly creates anxiety, and anxiety pushes money away, the same way clinging to a person pushes them away.
Origin
Extracted from Deep Dive with Ali Abdaal
How to run it
- 1
Audit what you are actually aiming at
Write down the goal you are currently working toward. If it is a number — ten thousand a month, five million a year — you are aiming at the quarter with no basket over it. Notice whether the number is the target or the byproduct.
Pro tip Hudson's tell: if you can only describe success in currency, the aim is wrong.
- 2
Name the basket — the goal beyond money
Identify the thing you would still pursue if the money were handled. Hudson lists real examples from the people he coaches: prove they are smarter than everybody, win the game, save the world, better the world, get to space, be of service. Being of service is, in his words, 'a great quarter' because it feels good and creates fulfilment for most people.
Watch out Do not pick the noble-sounding goal. It has to be the one you actually feel, or it will not hold the serve.
- 3
Demote money to a medium
Re-cast money as the painter's pigment or the guitarist's instrument — the material you work with to reach the real goal. When money is the means rather than the end, the anxiety of losing it drops, and Hudson argues that dropped anxiety is precisely what stops repelling it.
- 4
Run a felt gratitude practice daily
Hudson's mechanism for identity: people who think 'I don't have stuff, I'm poor' become that. A daily gratitude practice done with real emotional feeling — I can eat out, I can buy a coffee, I can go to school — shifts identity from the person who lacks to the person who has. Every disciplined practitioner he has watched started accumulating wealth.
Pro tip Emotion is the active ingredient. A list you don't feel does nothing.
Watch out Done as a checklist ritual, this collapses into another should and stops working.
- 5
Expect the goal-hit to be hollow, and keep aiming past it
Hudson's explanation of why hitting goals feels good: not because of the achievement, but because for one moment there is nothing to want. Then the next goal arrives and the anxiety resumes. Knowing this, treat each milestone as a waypoint on the larger aim rather than the finish line.
Watch out Goal pressure degrades execution the same way game point does in tennis — you get in your head and play worse.
- 6
Optimise the process for enjoyment, not just effectiveness
Hudson's line at the retreat was 'enjoyment is efficiency.' If you sell in a way you enjoy rather than only in a way that is effective, you become the better salesperson — and fulfilled people are the ones others want to be around, which itself makes money. He calls it sweeping thousand-dollar bills off the floor.
Pro tip Test each recurring task with: what would this look like if it were fun?
In the wild
Hudson and his wife run intensive week-long executive retreats — 7:30am to 10:30pm, seven days, twelve people, constant emotional movement. Exhausted at the end of one, they discussed a trade they had passed on a decade earlier that would have been worth roughly seventy million dollars, and concluded they were glad they missed it because they might never have started the coaching business. He then asked her: if someone offered a billion dollars for the business, with a non-compete that ended their work in the field, would you take it? They both said no. His youngest daughter, hearing the story, came back three days later with her own version: not a billion-dollar idea to sell, but an idea so good she wouldn't sell it for a billion.
→ The aim past money was strong enough to make a billion-dollar exit an obvious no — and it propagated to the next generation as a design goal rather than a payday.
Ali Abdaal notes that his channel A/B tests titles, and 'how to make your first 10K' outperforms 'how to build a business you enjoy' so decisively that the enjoyment-framed video tanked. Yet the advice he actually gives is the opposite of the title: make a video every week for two years, enjoy the process, get a little better each time. He will not put a number on the outcome — but says he does not know a single person who has done that for two years whose life has not changed. Hudson agrees: starting a channel for the money almost never works; starting it to share something you care about that helps people means the money is more likely to follow.
→ An unspecifiable but reliable payoff from a process-and-service aim, versus a specified target that mostly fails.
Hudson's analogy for the false trade-off. In the 1970s you could be a businessman or an environmentalist, not both. By the 1990s Walmart, under CEO Lee Scott, discovered you could be both — and Scott described the savings as sweeping thousand-dollar bills off the floor. The example Hudson loves: Walmart asked employees how to help the environment, and a kid in a break room suggested taking the lights out of the coke machines. Savings at the time were about 1.5 million dollars a year. Hudson claims the same false either-or now sits between success and fulfilment, and resolves the same way.
→ The 'do good or make money' fork turned out to be a false choice worth millions; Hudson argues success-versus-fulfilment is the same false choice.
Common mistakes
Making the money number the goal itself
Hudson is blunt that people who are just in it for the money are never hyper successful and never long-term successful. They may get the money, but the process of getting there is incredibly hard — and the anxiety of holding onto it pushes it away.
Identifying with wanting instead of having
Consuming 'how to make $10,000 a month' content usually means 'I want to want to be rich.' You become identified with the grasping rather than the having — one day I'll make it, one day I'll get my dad's love, one day I'll feel safe — which is why, in Hudson's framing, a lot of people stay poor.
Waiting for 'enough' before allowing fulfilment
Hudson realised while driving that he was thinking about everything he lacked exactly the way the billionaires he knew did. It is a carrot on a stick that never fulfils. Money started flooding in only after he saw through it — fulfilment first, money second, not the reverse.
From the transcript
“people who are just like I'm just in it for the money they're never hyper successful and they're never long-term successful they might get the…”
“if you have a goal that's beyond the making of money that is how you actually become hypers successful that is the quarter in the…”
“they start accumulating wealth because they identify as the person with something instead of as the person who doesn't have something”
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